THE process of changing a hockey coach's or executive's mind usually moves at a pace between glacial and political.
Manitoba Moose defenceman Max Fortunus has first-hand knowledge of this challenge, though his impossible dream isn't always that impossible -- ask Jason Jaffray, Josh Green, Alex Burrows, Rick Rypien or Patrick Coulombe, all of whom have signed NHL deals after originally being contracted only to the Moose.
It's just that generally, the undrafted are unloved when it comes to NHL teams.
There may be a warming under way, however small, for the 24-year-old Quebecer who is about to begin his third season with the Moose.
"I know (Canucks assistant) Mike Kelly was a big Max Fortunus fan and I think Rick (Bowness, the other Vancouver assistant) is now, too," Moose coach Scott Arniel said Thursday. "Rick runs the 'D' and I think Max kind of grew on him."
Fortunus, a non-contracted player, actually made two pre-season appearances for the Canucks. Such an acknowledgment has to say something, doesn't it?
"Would Max have gotten a game without all the injuries? I don't know," Arniel said. "It would have been close. There were other people they might have looked at. But Max was real good in camp and so they gave him a game and he played so well he got a second one.
"That's the thing about Max, he grows on you. He's not flashy, he's consistent and that's what he did in Vancouver's camp, played his game."
Fortunus's rainy-day face has rarely been seen in these parts and he was his happy self Thursday, just two days after being re-assigned.
"I went there to make the team," Fortunus said. "You take a look at their roster, though, and you have to be realistic. It could have happened. You just never know. But now I'm coming back here to have another good season, maybe open some eyes still and maybe these guys will pick me up and maybe one day something's going to happen.
"But I'm here to have a great season and have some fun."
He was positively confident he gave his best in Vancouver, and that it might have mattered.
"It was great," he said. "I think I actually did open some eyes, maybe. I think I did my best. It's all I can do. It's why I went, to show those guys what I can do.
"Maybe that'll be good for the future."
The NHL exhibition appearances, the first two of his career, meant a lot, he said.
"It was awesome," Fortunus said. "I didn't play the first two games, was in the stands and I wanted to be out there so bad. Just with the feeling and the crowd, all those people and seeing those big names, Getzlaf, Pronger, like that, and then playing against them, what a great feeling.
"I'm glad about what I did there. And I'm coming back here not satisfied. I played two good games there and it's part of a dream that's just starting to come through. I'll keep on playing good here and who knows."
For the present, Fortunus has plenty of friends in these parts.
"I think he lives at (assistant coach Brad Berry's) house in the off-season he loves him so much," Arniel said. "And I do, too. He's real reliable. You look down the bench and you know he's a guy that gives you the same night in and night out. He's the same player, a safe, solid player.
"And as much as Alex Edler is going to be a good NHL player and defender, I think he recognizes that Max Fortunus had a lot to do with his development last year. Max is a real easy guy to play with and real helpful as a partner."
Training camp - Day 4
INTRASQUAD HIGHLIGHTS: The debut in a Moose uniform was noticeable for burly 20-year-old Pierre-Cedric Labrie on Thursday. He set up a sweet goal by Cody Thornton and scored one himself as Team White swept the intrasquad games this week with a 3-0 victory over Team Black. Milan Gajic had White's other goal.
* DAILY SHIPMENT: The Moose reduced their official roster to 32 by moving out 13 players late Thursday. Forwards Mark Derlago (Bakersfield), Matt Robinson (Alaska), Peder Skinner (Phoenix), defencemen Jonathan Paiement (Texas), Kevin Truelson (Bakersfield), Travis Wight (Idaho) and goalie Ervins Mustakovs (Pensacola) were assigned to their ECHL teams while goalies Andy Franck and Davis Parley, defenceman Curtiss Patrick and forwards Tim Plett and Thornton were released from their camp tryouts.
* WHAT THE COACH SAW: "It's the inevitable that (releases) have to happen, some that I did know and some that I didn't," Arniel said. "But we got to see some guys this week and I was real impressed with what I saw in camp. Now we need to get down to workable numbers." Arniel said everyone on the roster will see exhibition action this weekend, though some Vancouver assignees earlier this week such as Brad Moran, Jozef Balej and Greg Classen won't arrive here for a few more days.
* WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: It was the first day in Moose camp for rookie goalie Cory Schneider, who comes out of Canucks camp with lofty expectations from the organization and great west-coast press clippings, as well as support and encouragement from Arniel in the early going. The media hype has begun already but Schneider's first meaningful save as a professional is still at least two weeks away.
* Daily shipment: No movement on Wednesday but Arniel said he'd be reducing the training camp roster sometime today. It stands at 45 after Vancouver's 11-player shuttle to the Moose on Tuesday. Not that any action was expected, but Jozef Balej, Greg Classen and Brad Moran all cleared NHL waivers Wednesday and can be officially assigned to the Moose.
* Countdown to Game 1: 13 days.
* Today: morning practice sessions at MTS Centre then the team is off on its bus to Fort Frances, Ont., for a 7 p.m. game against the Toronto Marlies. The pre-season tour continues Saturday night in Dryden, Ont., against the Marlies again.
-- Tim Campbell